hello dear Robert,it is always good to hear your comments, and yes, you are grieving,it is still in your system,I do understand oh so very well.:( It will take time to be friends again with your brother,one day... Why was he acting like this?In such a difficult time and you felt so powerless.I am glad you found your way back to your daughter.How short is she then? I've seen a photo when she was still a kid.So beautiful!:)Can she call you?Yes,take any occasion to call your dad, Robert!Before he isn't there anymore.Tomorrow I go to a funeral.She is the second wife of my uncle Oktaaf (he's 95!),aunt Engeline,and she died at 83. She demented.Uncle Oktaaf's first wife died at 36 and they had 4 children. Then he married Engeline,a nurse who cared for his wife and they had another 4 children.Some of his children, come from Switserland and Italy.There will be a lot of family and people in the church,an Evangelian ceremony.My own dad died at 36 too and I was 3 and a half yrs old. Mom had my older brother,Paul(he lives now in Australia),then came me,then my brother Johan(he's a lung-specialist)and at 26 mom expected my youngest sister,Josée, now she calls herself Joke(=like Yoke).Papa died 2 months before she was born.:o Dad was a lot older then Oktaaf.They had a third brother who never married.Shortly after my dad died, mom got to know a neighbor,Renaat and she fled with us to Brussels.Because Oktaaf thought she knew too fast another man in her life!Then mom abandoned the parents of my dad,our great parents. :(( We never saw the family back...My new parents weren't married and we called just his name.I always missed my real dad.Mom forbid us to see my family. We listened when we were small.Later only I visited them incognito.And in that way i knew all my nieces and nephews.:)Paul and me,the 2 oldest children have known my dad,the youngest didn't.Papa died on the first birthday of Johan!And mom so very young;only 26 years,with 4 small children! :(( Uncle Oktaaf taught me to read at the age of 4 and a half!And at 5 I read books.-smile
Eric, you asked if I minded you using my quotes -- not at all, of course. I saw that on your profile page before I wrote you recently and was glad to see it. And in case you didn't know, there are many other people in prison who write on this site, and although Ive only seen a small group of others, they aren't as good as yours.
Thanks for asking around about 60 Days In. From the few episodes I've seen, this "birthday beatdown" stuff seemed like it wasn't necessarily bloody but seemed more violent than a playful punch on the arm. I don't know for sure, of course. IAnd it seems fake sometimes only in that the fights always seem to happen in closed-off rooms, etc. Also, like you said, it's jail, so I assume many of them know of the show, and since the cameramen are actually IN there with them at times doing interviews, they have to know they are probably on a show like 60 Days In. In the show, they take average people and put them in jail for 60 days -- if they can handle it. Usually you'll see a guy who's got a big mouth and thinks he is tough but asks to leave early when he actually gets there.
I am actually quite surprised, pleasantly, that BTB got my msg to you and your msg back to the site in under a month. Kudos to BTB for doing this.
Hi Eric, Just writing to say hello. I enjoyed reading the MacGyver story. As a Yankee I appreciate the maxim "if it's broken, fix it, if you can't fix it, throw it out, make do with what you have, or do without." Creative repurposing is a great skill to have.
Keep writing. I'd like to hear about things you're reading, too. I told you a while back about the program here in New York that lets the incarcerated take classes and get college degrees. Any sign of that in Fla. yet? It's worthwhile. --Best wishes, Bob the musicologist
What a blessing for you to have received forgiveness. What a blessing for the families to have found it in their hearts to give forgiveness. That is, indeed, where real healing is found; not in the act of vengeance and retribution, but in the selfless act of forgiving another their trespasses. It is easy to forgive the innocent. It is the guilty who test our morality. People are more than the worst thing they have ever done.
"For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. Matthew 6:14
We must be able to forgive others, even if they have deeply wounded us, so that we are able to receive forgiveness ourselves. Jesus Christ in His wisdom knew that it was important to ask for forgiveness to those we have wronged as well as confessing our sins to Him.
If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. Matthew 18:15
I will keep you in my prayers, and do what I can to educate others on the travesty that is Capital Punishment. It is flawed in many ways and has no place in our modern society. We are not cruel barbarians, we have no business carrying out cruel barbaric acts.
I looked on Netflix and found a program called ‘Death Row Stories’ is that where your interview will air or is it a brand new program altogether? I am interested in watching it, so I will keep an eye out for it.
I’ve been reading articles on the Death Penalty. I came across this quote from Marietta Jaeger-Lane;
“Loved ones, wrenched from our lives by violent crimes, deserve more beautiful, noble and honorable memorials than premeditated, state-sanctioned killings. The Death Penalty only creates more victims and more grieving families. By becoming that which we deplore-people who kill people- we insult the sacred memories of our precious victims.”
So are the victims’ families able to find closure in the execution of their loved ones perpetrator? Or do they have to relive the crime over and over again in the appeals process? Wouldn’t it be easier on them if their loved ones' killers were sentenced to life without parole, rather than the death penalty? So that they aren’t re-traumatized in the multiple retellings of the story in media outlets that often precede an execution, as well as reliving the scenes on an endless loop in their own minds. Rather than consider what is best for the families that homicide victims leave behind, society often uses these people and their pain to score political points in the death penalty argument.
Even when victims’ families are eagerly awaiting the elusive closure they believe the application of the Death Penalty will bring them, they find that the years stretch out indeterminately. Even when the execution finally takes place, a surviving family's pain doesn't disappear with the perpetrator's pulse. It must seem like a cruel joke at that point. After waiting years, even decades, for it all to ‘end’ they find out that there isn’t a miraculous ending to their pain and loss for a loved one.
What about the cases where the Capital Punishment isn’t the consequence? Because the Death Penalty is not applied to all homicides, it leaves some surviving family members with the impression that the justice system values some victims more than others.
Sister Helen Prejean eloquently states;
“In sorting out my feelings and beliefs, there is, however, one piece of moral ground of which I am absolutely certain: if I were to be murdered I would not want my murderer executed. I would not want my death avenged. Especially by government--which can't be trusted to control its own bureaucrats or collect taxes equitably or fill a pothole, much less decide which of its citizens to kill.”
I couldn’t agree more....
Freud’s quote, that you mentioned, is correct in that the masses are lazy and unintelligent. If those that support the killing of Americans in abortion and Capital Punishment were to actually research the methods used and the real price that society pays in permitting these atrocities, there would be few supporters left. Most people don’t want to see the ugliness so they turn a blind eye.
Don't forget the Freedom Riders too, the black and white civil right activists who were beaten by an angry mob of KKK in 1961.
You could really plug that sort of thinking into anything that the KKK considered a threat, really. Claims that a right or an achievement "weren't really deserved by ____". Roman Catholics, Jews, organized labor in any form, and any foreigner of any sort—all targets of the KKK by the 1910s.
Makes me gloomy, but knowing that you know more about them lightens me up a little.
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Uncle Oktaaf taught me to read at the age of 4 and a half!And at 5 I read books.-smile
Thanks for asking around about 60 Days In. From the few episodes I've seen, this "birthday beatdown" stuff seemed like it wasn't necessarily bloody but seemed more violent than a playful punch on the arm. I don't know for sure, of course. IAnd it seems fake sometimes only in that the fights always seem to happen in closed-off rooms, etc. Also, like you said, it's jail, so I assume many of them know of the show, and since the cameramen are actually IN there with them at times doing interviews, they have to know they are probably on a show like 60 Days In. In the show, they take average people and put them in jail for 60 days -- if they can handle it. Usually you'll see a guy who's got a big mouth and thinks he is tough but asks to leave early when he actually gets there.
I am actually quite surprised, pleasantly, that BTB got my msg to you and your msg back to the site in under a month. Kudos to BTB for doing this.
Take care, keep writing!
Keep writing. I'd like to hear about things you're reading, too. I told you a while back about the program here in New York that lets the incarcerated take classes and get college degrees. Any sign of that in Fla. yet? It's worthwhile.
--Best wishes, Bob the musicologist
"For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
Matthew 6:14
We must be able to forgive others, even if they have deeply wounded us, so that we are able to receive forgiveness ourselves. Jesus Christ in His wisdom knew that it was important to ask for forgiveness to those we have wronged as well as confessing our sins to Him.
If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over.
Matthew 18:15
I will keep you in my prayers, and do what I can to educate others on the travesty that is Capital Punishment. It is flawed in many ways and has no place in our modern society. We are not cruel barbarians, we have no business carrying out cruel barbaric acts.
I’ve been reading articles on the Death Penalty. I came across this quote from Marietta Jaeger-Lane;
“Loved ones, wrenched from our lives by violent crimes, deserve more beautiful, noble and honorable memorials than premeditated, state-sanctioned killings. The Death Penalty only creates more victims and more grieving families. By becoming that which we deplore-people who kill people- we insult the sacred memories of our precious victims.”
So are the victims’ families able to find closure in the execution of their loved ones perpetrator? Or do they have to relive the crime over and over again in the appeals process? Wouldn’t it be easier on them if their loved ones' killers were sentenced to life without parole, rather than the death penalty? So that they aren’t re-traumatized in the multiple retellings of the story in media outlets that often precede an execution, as well as reliving the scenes on an endless loop in their own minds.
Rather than consider what is best for the families that homicide victims leave behind, society often uses these people and their pain to score political points in the death penalty argument.
Even when victims’ families are eagerly awaiting the elusive closure they believe the application of the Death Penalty will bring them, they find that the years stretch out indeterminately. Even when the execution finally takes place, a surviving family's pain doesn't disappear with the perpetrator's pulse. It must seem like a cruel joke at that point. After waiting years, even decades, for it all to ‘end’ they find out that there isn’t a miraculous ending to their pain and loss for a loved one.
What about the cases where the Capital Punishment isn’t the consequence? Because the Death Penalty is not applied to all homicides, it leaves some surviving family members with the impression that the justice system values some victims more than others.
Sister Helen Prejean eloquently states;
“In sorting out my feelings and beliefs, there is, however, one piece of moral ground of which I am absolutely certain: if I were to be murdered I would not want my murderer executed. I would not want my death avenged. Especially by government--which can't be trusted to control its own bureaucrats or collect taxes equitably or fill a pothole, much less decide which of its citizens to kill.”
I couldn’t agree more....
Freud’s quote, that you mentioned, is correct in that the masses are lazy and unintelligent. If those that support the killing of Americans in abortion and Capital Punishment were to actually research the methods used and the real price that society pays in permitting these atrocities, there would be few supporters left. Most people don’t want to see the ugliness so they turn a blind eye.
You could really plug that sort of thinking into anything that the KKK considered a threat, really. Claims that a right or an achievement "weren't really deserved by ____". Roman Catholics, Jews, organized labor in any form, and any foreigner of any sort—all targets of the KKK by the 1910s.
Makes me gloomy, but knowing that you know more about them lightens me up a little.