PART 1 Perhaps I can paint this picture for Daniel...
My home is not a quiet, clinical environment where I am able to devote a block of time to just one task. I am a single mother, I work and study. This was what was going on in my home yesterday as I typed the above response.
I was in my bedroom with the door open. My 2 youngest children (K, 11 years) and (B, 8 years)were at home on school holidays. They get 6 weeks off over Christmas as it is our summer break here in Australia. As I typed my reply, this is what I was contending with...
B came in, hugged me and said "I love you Mum" "I Love you too baby" "Can I have another cupcake?" "OK, but just one" (we baked them together the day before).
K came in, "have those movies finished downloading yet?" He checked the other laptop in my room & said, "no, not yet" so they went back to playing with their ball in the hallway outside my door. As we live in the tropics, it is too hot for the kids to play ball games outside during the day so the hallway in our air-conditioned house, and a soft ball suitable for inside, keeps them entertained. (bang, bang, bounce, bounce, giggle, giggle...)
K comes back in after a couple of minutes... "Have they finished downloading yet...? oh, they have... can you show me how to put them on a USB again, I've forgotten how" "sure baby"... I show him and he leaves with his movie on the USB stick.
B came in then, "K said that movie is scary and I don't want to watch it if it's scary" "OK baby, well It's supposed to be a kids movie, but let's have a look at the trailer on YouTube and see what it's about" *so we search the movie "The Hole" on YouTube to see what it's about. It turns out it is a kids movie, but similar to Jumanji or the Gremlins and B decides he doesn't want to watch that and off they both go, to separate rooms of the house.
I then type a little more and my daughter A. who is 19, (who no longer lives with us) sends me a text message, I'm looking at new units. This one has a viewing in 35 minutes (& sends me the link), can you come over and get me and take me to see it? "Yeah, sure" (I don't seem to be getting much done here after all). So we all pile into the car and go and view this potential new home for my eldest child. (It's a winner, she's putting in an application).
Why (and I mean this sincerely) would one need to "work out exactly what you meant"? Is it that difficult to simply state what you mean? Criminology and psychology fields are very demanding and require an exquisite ability to communicate in a concise manner...both verbally and in writing. Did you sleep through those classes or haven't you had them yet? Just asking.
PART 3 I will print out your 'sassy girls' post and go through it when I next get a chance and get back to you with any comments. Thank you also for the contacts, I'm not sure if I will bother them at this stage, but when I'm in the mood for networking I'll certainly include them. I'm busy with working and mothering at this stage of my life but I'm looking forward to when they've grown up and I can get busy with more post grad study and immerse myself in all the knowledge the world has to offer.
& I certainly will stay in touch Nate. Thank you for your insight and I apologize again for the delay in my reply.
PART 2 The one thing that we are continuously encouraged to do as students is to 'think'. Think for ourselves, to not necessarily believe what we read or even what we are taught, but to research (obviously) interpret and make up our own minds. When I first heard that I thought it was a silly concept. Of course we think, (or we want to believe we do), but the more I thought about that concept and analyzed my own perceptions of things, the more I realized how very much the mentors in our lives have influenced our thought processes or the rubbish we are fed by the media, or read in newspapers which are all elementary sources of information as we grow up. It wasn't until I began to question 'everything' that I realized how much of a foreign concept it is to simply 'think'. How sad is that!? & when you consider this, it's no wonder ignorant attitudes & poor decisions prosper throughout the world and are able to proliferate.
I think I already acknowledged Sean's perceptions of your rugged exterior previously, and I'm sure I would have said something along the lines of 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' ha-ha. One thing I teach my children is that 'ugly is on the inside' so I don't feel the need to elaborate further. Let me know if that response is not good enough :D
What you say about 'good & evil' aligns with a comment I left for you earlier tonight about self justification. I like your thoughts on this. I'll take some time to ponder them further over the coming days in my quiet moments.
Thank you for your comments & compliments. Thank you too for your comment about how you don't like to be called 'offenders'. That is a very fair point, & of course you're not always offending. It's a term I personally have felt more comfortable with than 'prisoners' because again... you should not necessarily be defined by a word that reflects your environment. What is a more appropriate term white boy? JOKING... I'm joking! ;) (I'm not sure why you find that offensive though really, I call myself a white girl. Mostly because, I am). What is a good, non-offensive collective term I should use in my next assessment..? Or perhaps just using a collective term is always going to be offensive as grouping any number of people together by one single term will always be an ignorant thing to do. But we’re human, and our brains need to group things to make sense of them…
PART 1 Thank you for this reply Nate. I'm sorry I've taken so long to acknowledge your words, things have just been crazy recently with work & kids & study... & now Christmas... but I thought I'd steal a moment, when I'm supposed to be submitting another job application, to get back to you.
The major rock around the city I live in is described on wiki (where we all know the knowledge of the world is held ha-ha) as an "isolated pink granite monolith". So granite is the answer to your question. It's funny that you think there are too many dwellings because you only have to travel 5 minutes out of any Australian city to find vast nothingness. Our land mass is equivalent to that of the USA yet our population is only 22 million & I believe you have that many people in New York alone, so you don't have to go far here to find solitude, if that's what you're looking for. Our population is concentrated on the east coast also, which I believe is unique by world standards.
I do agree with your perspective of personality too. That 'one genuine identity' was in my paper as we were required to reference the assigned readings in each weekly blog. For that assessment we didn't necessarily have to 'believe' what we were writing, just show we'd read, and could interpret, the material we were given. This is one of the reasons I personally believe formal education is nothing more than a process of jumping through hoops at times. I'm much more of a practical person than an academic and believe we can learn so much more from practical experience or through studying one another. Another reason why Psychology has disappointed me somewhat, in comparison to criminology, is that we're not able to get any practical experience until the completion of 4 years study. A 4 year degree just gives us the opportunity to then go on and obtain practical experience. Thankfully I found my friend in Arizona 3 years ago, and BtB in the last year to at least compliment that academic perspective in the meantime.
Apart from making me smile, your post also makes me think about how we're able to justify anything in our minds. How, through self-justification, if we encounter any cognitive dissonance or situations that are inconsistent with our beliefs, we are able to justify any behavior with the added ability to deny any associated negative feedback.
This is how we are able to teach our soldiers to kill to defend our countries or how an executioner can carry out state sanctioned murder and sleep peacefully at night. You've spoken before too of how you yourself, felt you had a legitimate reason to kill someone who was harming others.
It is this same principal that allows the powers that be to justify building a more 'suitable prison cell' above providing him with the appropriate psychological help he no doubt needs to curb his current inappropriate behaviors.
I have to agree with you that the criminal justice system is creating a larger problem than it had to begin with by caging people indefinately, who would benifit from rehabilitation and psychological intervention. I don't think we will ever be able to 'eliminate' crime, but as you say, "by curing the ills that cause it" this is the only hope we have. I don't think the societal structures of the USA have the foundations necessary to build strong individuals and the most recent mass shooting there in the US is a good example of that. What sort of hopelessness and helplessness must that individual have felt to make the decisions he did...
I heard Obama said in recent days something along the lines of 'for things to change WE have to change' so I'm hoping with the addition of his voice, this discussion will keep going and not stall until the next tragedy occurs there.
Have a Merry Christmas Nate.
Thank you for entertaining me and for your help with my studies this year. Take care!
Thanks for your reply Kyle! I wrote a long screed in reply, but haven't posted it (yet?) since it was too big to fit in the comment box.
But suffice it to say that I guess I don't really understand anarchism. Plus, there seems to be so many to choose from! :-) So, taking the clear-cutting example, I'll ask a few questions, and perhaps you can help me understand in some future blog post.
So, according to your understanding of Anarchism:
Who makes the decisions? i.e. Who decides that clear cutting is wrong? For example, if the chainsaw was just invented and clear cutting is now a real possibility that never existed before, this is a new challenge that society must deal with. How is this dealt with?
How are decisions made? (voting? volunteers only?)
What plans are made to enforce those decisions? Are decisions enforced at all? If so, who enforces them?
What happens to those people who voted differently and disagree with the final decision?
How does society change its mind? i.e. if clear cutting was not seen as a problem until the cherished Walnut Grove is now just Walnut Plains, how does society change course in the face of past precedent?
What happens to those people who rebel against the final decision? Who stops the clear cutters? And how are they stopped? Other forms of government use violent means, such as police or army. How does anarchism handle it?
Nicki, "The long term causes of segragation are something that I have wondered about and what you describe here brings to my mind how a puppy might react when he's been mis-treated by his captors; being timid, withdrawn and untrusting as he doesn't know what to expect".
Perhaps you meant to say "long term EFFECTS".
As a psychology and criminology student, surely you know that the cause vs effect of SEGREGATION (note spelling) are two completely different concepts.
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Perhaps I can paint this picture for Daniel...
My home is not a quiet, clinical environment where I am able to devote a block of time to just one task. I am a single mother, I work and study. This was what was going on in my home yesterday as I typed the above response.
I was in my bedroom with the door open. My 2 youngest children (K, 11 years) and (B, 8 years)were at home on school holidays. They get 6 weeks off over Christmas as it is our summer break here in Australia. As I typed my reply, this is what I was contending with...
B came in, hugged me and said "I love you Mum"
"I Love you too baby"
"Can I have another cupcake?"
"OK, but just one" (we baked them together the day before).
K came in, "have those movies finished downloading yet?"
He checked the other laptop in my room & said, "no, not yet" so they went back to playing with their ball in the hallway outside my door. As we live in the tropics, it is too hot for the kids to play ball games outside during the day so the hallway in our air-conditioned house, and a soft ball suitable for inside, keeps them entertained. (bang, bang, bounce, bounce, giggle, giggle...)
K comes back in after a couple of minutes... "Have they finished downloading yet...? oh, they have... can you show me how to put them on a USB again, I've forgotten how"
"sure baby"... I show him and he leaves with his movie on the USB stick.
B came in then, "K said that movie is scary and I don't want to watch it if it's scary"
"OK baby, well It's supposed to be a kids movie, but let's have a look at the trailer on YouTube and see what it's about"
*so we search the movie "The Hole" on YouTube to see what it's about. It turns out it is a kids movie, but similar to Jumanji or the Gremlins and B decides he doesn't want to watch that and off they both go, to separate rooms of the house.
I then type a little more and my daughter A. who is 19, (who no longer lives with us) sends me a text message, I'm looking at new units. This one has a viewing in 35 minutes (& sends me the link), can you come over and get me and take me to see it? "Yeah, sure" (I don't seem to be getting much done here after all). So we all pile into the car and go and view this potential new home for my eldest child. (It's a winner, she's putting in an application).
I will print out your 'sassy girls' post and go through it when I next get a chance and get back to you with any comments. Thank you also for the contacts, I'm not sure if I will bother them at this stage, but when I'm in the mood for networking I'll certainly include them. I'm busy with working and mothering at this stage of my life but I'm looking forward to when they've grown up and I can get busy with more post grad study and immerse myself in all the knowledge the world has to offer.
& I certainly will stay in touch Nate. Thank you for your insight and I apologize again for the delay in my reply.
Take care. Nicki
The one thing that we are continuously encouraged to do as students is to 'think'. Think for ourselves, to not necessarily believe what we read or even what we are taught, but to research (obviously) interpret and make up our own minds. When I first heard that I thought it was a silly concept. Of course we think, (or we want to believe we do), but the more I thought about that concept and analyzed my own perceptions of things, the more I realized how very much the mentors in our lives have influenced our thought processes or the rubbish we are fed by the media, or read in newspapers which are all elementary sources of information as we grow up. It wasn't until I began to question 'everything' that I realized how much of a foreign concept it is to simply 'think'. How sad is that!? & when you consider this, it's no wonder ignorant attitudes & poor decisions prosper throughout the world and are able to proliferate.
I think I already acknowledged Sean's perceptions of your rugged exterior previously, and I'm sure I would have said something along the lines of 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' ha-ha. One thing I teach my children is that 'ugly is on the inside' so I don't feel the need to elaborate further. Let me know if that response is not good enough :D
What you say about 'good & evil' aligns with a comment I left for you earlier tonight about self justification. I like your thoughts on this. I'll take some time to ponder them further over the coming days in my quiet moments.
Thank you for your comments & compliments. Thank you too for your comment about how you don't like to be called 'offenders'. That is a very fair point, & of course you're not always offending. It's a term I personally have felt more comfortable with than 'prisoners' because again... you should not necessarily be defined by a word that reflects your environment. What is a more appropriate term white boy? JOKING... I'm joking! ;) (I'm not sure why you find that offensive though really, I call myself a white girl. Mostly because, I am). What is a good, non-offensive collective term I should use in my next assessment..? Or perhaps just using a collective term is always going to be offensive as grouping any number of people together by one single term will always be an ignorant thing to do. But we’re human, and our brains need to group things to make sense of them…
Thank you for this reply Nate. I'm sorry I've taken so long to acknowledge your words, things have just been crazy recently with work & kids & study... & now Christmas... but I thought I'd steal a moment, when I'm supposed to be submitting another job application, to get back to you.
The major rock around the city I live in is described on wiki (where we all know the knowledge of the world is held ha-ha) as an "isolated pink granite monolith". So granite is the answer to your question. It's funny that you think there are too many dwellings because you only have to travel 5 minutes out of any Australian city to find vast nothingness. Our land mass is equivalent to that of the USA yet our population is only 22 million & I believe you have that many people in New York alone, so you don't have to go far here to find solitude, if that's what you're looking for. Our population is concentrated on the east coast also, which I believe is unique by world standards.
I do agree with your perspective of personality too. That 'one genuine identity' was in my paper as we were required to reference the assigned readings in each weekly blog. For that assessment we didn't necessarily have to 'believe' what we were writing, just show we'd read, and could interpret, the material we were given. This is one of the reasons I personally believe formal education is nothing more than a process of jumping through hoops at times. I'm much more of a practical person than an academic and believe we can learn so much more from practical experience or through studying one another. Another reason why Psychology has disappointed me somewhat, in comparison to criminology, is that we're not able to get any practical experience until the completion of 4 years study. A 4 year degree just gives us the opportunity to then go on and obtain practical experience. Thankfully I found my friend in Arizona 3 years ago, and BtB in the last year to at least compliment that academic perspective in the meantime.
This is how we are able to teach our soldiers to kill to defend our countries or how an executioner can carry out state sanctioned murder and sleep peacefully at night. You've spoken before too of how you yourself, felt you had a legitimate reason to kill someone who was harming others.
It is this same principal that allows the powers that be to justify building a more 'suitable prison cell' above providing him with the appropriate psychological help he no doubt needs to curb his current inappropriate behaviors.
I have to agree with you that the criminal justice system is creating a larger problem than it had to begin with by caging people indefinately, who would benifit from rehabilitation and psychological intervention. I don't think we will ever be able to 'eliminate' crime, but as you say, "by curing the ills that cause it" this is the only hope we have. I don't think the societal structures of the USA have the foundations necessary to build strong individuals and the most recent mass shooting there in the US is a good example of that. What sort of hopelessness and helplessness must that individual have felt to make the decisions he did...
I heard Obama said in recent days something along the lines of 'for things to change WE have to change' so I'm hoping with the addition of his voice, this discussion will keep going and not stall until the next tragedy occurs there.
Have a Merry Christmas Nate.
Thank you for entertaining me and for your help with my studies this year. Take care!
Nicki
But suffice it to say that I guess I don't really understand anarchism. Plus, there seems to be so many to choose from! :-) So, taking the clear-cutting example, I'll ask a few questions, and perhaps you can help me understand in some future blog post.
So, according to your understanding of Anarchism:
Who makes the decisions? i.e. Who decides that clear cutting is wrong? For example, if the chainsaw was just invented and clear cutting is now a real possibility that never existed before, this is a new challenge that society must deal with. How is this dealt with?
How are decisions made? (voting? volunteers only?)
What plans are made to enforce those decisions? Are decisions enforced at all? If so, who enforces them?
What happens to those people who voted differently and disagree with the final decision?
How does society change its mind? i.e. if clear cutting was not seen as a problem until the cherished Walnut Grove is now just Walnut Plains, how does society change course in the face of past precedent?
What happens to those people who rebel against the final decision? Who stops the clear cutters? And how are they stopped? Other forms of government use violent means, such as police or army. How does anarchism handle it?
Thanks!
- Chris
Perhaps you meant to say "long term EFFECTS".
As a psychology and criminology student, surely you know that the cause vs effect of SEGREGATION (note spelling) are two completely different concepts.