I enjoyed reading JT's reply to your post. It's always interesting to hear other, insightful perspectives.
What brought me down to the comments though, was the last line in your post about how you believe you've "come to realize that they truly are born, (with a touch of raised) that way".
It was the 'touch of raised' that way that piqued my interest. Why do you think that Nate? are you saying you think homosexual behaviors may have been encouraged in childhood, or perhaps modeled by others in a child's inner circle?
The reason why I ask is because I have a daughter who turned 20 this year. When she was 13 she told me she was gay. At the time I chose to just say 'ok' & kept doing whatever it was I was doing at the time, feeling like there was no point making an issue of it when she was so young. It never concerned me, we all are who we are, but I remember at the time questioning whether my actions could have had any impact on her. When she was 2 she refused to wear a skirt any more, at 7 she insisted in buying her clothes from the boys section & although I challenged these decisions during those times, I still let her do what she wanted.
There were never any openly gay people in our lives though. As far as I know she doesn't have any gay extended family members so I struggle with finding any example of homosexuality being shown to her before the age of 13.
Obviously this all goes back to that wonderful nature/nurture debate we all love so much, I just question whether nurture had any real impact in my daughter's life, other than being confident in who she was/is.
Thank you for your thought provoking posts, I don't often have the time to keep up with you here as I'd like to, but it's always interesting to see what's on your mind :)
There are a lot of strong feelings about gay men in prison, I know. I also know that some of the gay men can be pretty out there with their sexuality - and few readers of these forums would not understand how hard it is to try to avoid their sexual behavior (and I mean sexual behavior, since many 'encounters' are pretty public and nearly impossible to avoid).
No one wants to see someone having sex in the bathroom a few feet away - or in the shower stall next to you.
That said, there are many men in prison who are gay and never tell anyone. I know, I've worked in prison. I've been told this 'secret' because they trusted me. They didn't let me put this on any paperwork, anywhere - they were so scared of the other men finding out and harassing them.
You see only some of the gay men. There are plenty more 'nice' guys who just want to do their time, like everyone else. j
So clearly stated. I love it. It would be so hard for me to regularly be subjected to arbitrary exercises of power like that. I hope you don't let it make you utterly nuts.
Thank you for writing! I finished the transcription for your post. I appreciate and share your concern for respecting the dignity of all people, whomever they may be.
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All the best,
avalon
What brought me down to the comments though, was the last line in your post about how you believe you've "come to realize that
they truly are born, (with a touch of raised) that way".
It was the 'touch of raised' that way that piqued my interest. Why do you think that Nate? are you saying you think homosexual behaviors may have been encouraged in childhood, or perhaps modeled by others in a child's inner circle?
The reason why I ask is because I have a daughter who turned 20 this year. When she was 13 she told me she was gay. At the time I chose to just say 'ok' & kept doing whatever it was I was doing at the time, feeling like there was no point making an issue of it when she was so young. It never concerned me, we all are who we are, but I remember at the time questioning whether my actions could have had any impact on her. When she was 2 she refused to wear a skirt any more, at 7 she insisted in buying her clothes from the boys section & although I challenged these decisions during those times, I still let her do what she wanted.
There were never any openly gay people in our lives though. As far as I know she doesn't have any gay extended family members so I struggle with finding any example of homosexuality being shown to her before the age of 13.
Obviously this all goes back to that wonderful nature/nurture debate we all love so much, I just question whether nurture had any real impact in my daughter's life, other than being confident in who she was/is.
Thank you for your thought provoking posts, I don't often have the time to keep up with you here as I'd like to, but it's always interesting to see what's on your mind :)
Take care!
Nicki
No one wants to see someone having sex in the bathroom a few feet away - or in the shower stall next to you.
That said, there are many men in prison who are gay and never tell anyone. I know, I've worked in prison. I've been told this 'secret' because they trusted me. They didn't let me put this on any paperwork, anywhere - they were so scared of the other men finding out and harassing them.
You see only some of the gay men. There are plenty more 'nice' guys who just want to do their time, like everyone else.
j
Busy at the office but I'll try to write soon.
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Thank you for writing! I finished the transcription for your post. I appreciate and share your concern for respecting the dignity of all people, whomever they may be.
All the best,
avalon
All the best,
avalon