Hi Bill, Sorry I haven't written in a while. On the good side, this is really happening isn't it?! To others who would visit Bill: I can say from the viewpoint of a pretty descent person, who has never done drugs, who has never committed a crime, who has been a descent law abiding citizen and who is trying to help everyone around him; that William Goehler is one of the best people I know. I'm not saying he is totally "normal" but that may be what is best about him. No one I've ever met has been more willing to change and been able to do it just by studying. I understand about what he has done and the crazy things that he has been up to in the past. I think I've helped to get him pulled out of the depths of what he was in. But we are all in the same boat to one degree or another. There are causes and explanations and perhaps justifications for why we all do things; but in the end, man IS basically good. So, when he does things which are "bad" and we don't understand why then it's common to shy away from that. But, doing that doesn't resolve anything for anyone. If we can take responsibility for each other and help each other to get better and to overcome our insanities then shouldn't we? It in fact isn't correct to lock someone away with no rehabilitative efforts and to have the sunshine taken out of his life for the rest of his life without having a purpose or hope. True, enough, he is responsible for his actions; but so are we and what about our responsibility toward him? That is what is missing to a marked degree in society. I don't mean to be lecturing but it's just what I was thinking. I am Bill's friend now, so because of that I am writing on his blog to try to be in communication with him and others who would visit him. But, you are already on your way to seeing Bill; and it's definitely an adventure, but I think one you will want to repeat. I hope these words are of some use. All your words and hopes for Bill are awesome to be able to see. Best, Joe R.
Hey dad, it's Hannah. Sorry it took so long to find you. I just got back in contact with Destiny and she told me about you're website and now I'm here. Being completely honest I don't know a lot about you but I've heard some stories from my adopted mom that I'm hoping aren't as true as she makes them seem. No matter what you did, I still love you. How are you doing in there? I can only imagine what it's like. AJ and I are doing better if you were wondering. We've been through hell and back but then again so has everyone else so I can't really complain. Destiny sent me some of the cards you gave us when we were little and to be honest, I cried. You are a great drawer, I'm kinda jealous, I love drawing but it comes out like crap most of the time. One day I'm hope to bring aj up with me and we will visit all of you finally. It's been forever. I'll tell AJ he can write to yo use expect something from him sometime soon. I'll keep in touch. Love you.
I have talked to Rhonda today several time's. You know we have our differences. All I care about is you'r well being. All I want is for you to be okay. I will do what I can to make things as easy as I can for you...no matter what. If you need me for any reason just let me know. What Rhonda say's, has no reflection on me. That's between you and you'r sister.
Johnny,thanks for your note of comfort online and thanks for the one you wrote to our mother about u never liked my husband.to bad,he thought the world of you. And so did sissy as well as I,but its good that we see johnny's other side the hateful on that has no heart,the one who has no family us when they do associate with him he try s to force me to his ways or no ways and calls them b words,that's why they stop writing to you or at least why I did, good luck with your flona and that is spelt the way I wanted to.and I like her as much as you did mike. Mike is one of the best men that ever walked this earth.and still is so stick that and flona were ever. Good life with your games evil one your sister that don't take it and never will rhonda
Hey sweetheart so glad to see you were able to blog on this website again. I really appreciated this blog and what they are doing for the inmates and the families it is so good to read this blog. Know we are all praying for this CIU program you will be so good at being able to share God's word with others. I am so proud of you. I love you Mom
Hi, Brother I am so glad that you can still write a blog. I have enjoyed reading them in the past I will tell my new church Family about this A lot of people in our NC church wrote on here.Well I love U and my thoughts and prayers are with you always!!! With Love Mary
From wikipedia: "The red wolf (Canis rufus,[3] formerly Canis lupus rufus[4]), also known as the Florida wolf or Mississippi Valley wolf" Apparently it seems that the Canis Lupus is the grey wolf. So you're a lone wolf, huh? I can totally understand why you're one considering the kind of packs that exist in prison... Just like the wolves, we are generally a collective animal but sometimes we end up alone even if we're surrounded by people. I guess that's the worse kind of loneliness when one feels alone around others. Perhaps the hermitic kind of loneliness is not so bad because there's no one around you physically and there's a real excuse to be alone. People who isolate themselves get company from their own thoughts. Not many have this virtue and therefore become unbalanced and crazy with time. My advice to you is that you don't give up on finding a cool guy to speak your mind to. It might seem impossible but probably you're not the only intelligent guy in your prison even though you're outnumbered... I read some of your posts and I think they're pretty interesting. I'll definitely keep checking them. I'm from Portugal by the way.
Hey Joe. It's Tim. Although I have not been to see you since you were moved back to Lieber, I do think about you often and keep meaning to come see you again. It is good to hear that you are able to keep your mind occupied. I am not a reader. I might have read one book since high school! I read "The Client" by John Grisham. I admit I really liked it, but somehow I just find it so difficult make myself read. I started a second book by Grisham, "A Painted House" but alas, I did not stay with it. If I were to go back to it again I would have to start all over because I have forgotten what happened in the part I already read! Mama will be 89 in November. She has been in the hospital a couple of times this year. Once because her heart went into Afib and once because of low hemoglobin and had to have a blood transfusion. They did not find where she was loosing blood, so in another few months, she may have to have another.
We may not always do or say the thinks we should, but just know we are thinking of you.
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Regarding. Your daughter, consider this: everything you post regarding the child is now permanently available. A curious person with minimal computer skills can find one heck of a history about her if they desire.
On an earlier blog, one of your responders stated "I don't like to use my name on the internet". That is a smart action. It's too easy to track anything and everything down, based on minimal information. Her name is there however, along with where she lives, has lived, and from there it's easy to figure out where she works.
My point is, that by putting so much information out there about your daughter, her age... Where she is... Her date of birth, mothers maiden name... You are setting her up the base for a pretty extensive profile on her that will always follow wherever she goes.
People are curious (nosy?) by nature. Employers frequently use search engines and Boolean tools to get a full picture of an individual. By pitting all that information out there, you are linking your daughter to posts which paint the poor kid in a less than favorable light.
Basically, your actions... Which are painted in an altruistic light, but are in reality all about making yourself feel better will perpetuate the pain this kid feels anytime someone decides to do a search in her name in the future.
You are not helping anyone by begging for someone to help her, you are harming her future by posting this information for the world to see.
For myself, I try to limit anything I post about the wife or my kids. There are too many opportunities in this ever connected world for harm to be done from the most innocuous of,postings.
I believe people can change. I believe people do change. I believe some people will say anything to make others think they have changed.
I was a bad kid. Took what I want, and consequences be damned. I always had some buffer in me however to not actually physically hurt people. I've never really been sure where that reserve came from, maybe it's a genetic or compassionate part of my brain that those who are broken cannot understand. I have a wife, kids, a couple of homes, a flourishing business and while the past still sneaks up on me in the form of bad days, I still function in society.
You did not seem to have this. Since high school, and your time in juvie, your actions have been founded in violence and an utter disregard for others feelings. Stabbing a guard with a pencil is a good indicator of how things are going to turn out. Biting a guard during a trial where you are currently attempting to paint yourself as the victim is a further indication. Broken. Some broken things are fixable, and may still have value if fixed. Some broken things can never be fixed.
One point you go back to is that Mr. Updegrave started the fight. I can believe that, as he could be an ass. Physical violence however was not his way. It's well known that you attacked your victim in the kitchen, drug him from there, through three rooms and into the bathroom.
Since you dismembered the body, and even went so far as to go to your estranged girlfriends house to borrow a saw to finish the job (this is the home you were kicked out of, and the reason you lived with ron), you did. Ore than "take a life"". Let's add to that disposing parts of his corpse throughout Bucks County, stealing his car and trying to sell his things.
I do not forgive you. While I can only offer the best hopes that you continue to try and find ways to live with what you have done, there is no scenario in which your crimes should be forgiven. For a reference a religious man will understand, try Matthew 5:38 and leviticus 24:20.
If your attempt to become a better person were done altruistically, and not in a situation where honestly it is only one of two choices, then I and others like me might think... This man has a redeemable value. I think we both know however that were the opportunity given for you to be back on the streets, nothing less than a continuation of your past activities would be the result.
As one of the people that your actions affected, I will never forgive you. Not Just the murder that finally got you put away, but your actions prior to that. You owe a debt to society that really cannot be repaid. Society continues to support you, but has chosen to exclude you from the rest of us. It's sad in a way, necessary, but sad.
Best, Joe R.
One day I'm hope to bring aj up with me and we will visit all of you finally. It's been forever. I'll tell AJ he can write to yo use expect something from him sometime soon. I'll keep in touch. Love you.
I will do what I can to make things as easy as I can for you...no matter what. If you need me for any reason just let me know. What Rhonda say's, has no reflection on me. That's between you and you'r sister.
I love you
Mom
I am so glad that you can still write a blog.
I have enjoyed reading them in the past I will tell my new church Family about this A lot of people in our NC church wrote on here.Well I love U and my thoughts and prayers are with you always!!! With Love Mary
Apparently it seems that the Canis Lupus is the grey wolf.
So you're a lone wolf, huh? I can totally understand why you're one considering the kind of packs that exist in prison... Just like the wolves, we are generally a collective animal but sometimes we end up alone even if we're surrounded by people. I guess that's the worse kind of loneliness when one feels alone around others. Perhaps the hermitic kind of loneliness is not so bad because there's no one around you physically and there's a real excuse to be alone. People who isolate themselves get company from their own thoughts. Not many have this virtue and therefore become unbalanced and crazy with time. My advice to you is that you don't give up on finding a cool guy to speak your mind to. It might seem impossible but probably you're not the only intelligent guy in your prison even though you're outnumbered...
I read some of your posts and I think they're pretty interesting. I'll definitely keep checking them. I'm from Portugal by the way.
Regards, Rui
Mama will be 89 in November. She has been in the hospital a couple of times this year. Once because her heart went into Afib and once because of low hemoglobin and had to have a blood transfusion. They did not find where she was loosing blood, so in another few months, she may have to have another.
We may not always do or say the thinks we should, but just know we are thinking of you.
Tim
Regarding. Your daughter, consider this: everything you post regarding the child is now permanently available. A curious person with minimal computer skills can find one heck of a history about her if they desire.
On an earlier blog, one of your responders stated "I don't like to use my name on the internet". That is a smart action. It's too easy to track anything and everything down, based on minimal information. Her name is there however, along with where she lives, has lived, and from there it's easy to figure out where she works.
My point is, that by putting so much information out there about your daughter, her age... Where she is... Her date of birth, mothers maiden name... You are setting her up the base for a pretty extensive profile on her that will always follow wherever she goes.
People are curious (nosy?) by nature. Employers frequently use search engines and Boolean tools to get a full picture of an individual. By pitting all that information out there, you are linking your daughter to posts which paint the poor kid in a less than favorable light.
Basically, your actions... Which are painted in an altruistic light, but are in reality all about making yourself feel better will perpetuate the pain this kid feels anytime someone decides to do a search in her name in the future.
You are not helping anyone by begging for someone to help her, you are harming her future by posting this information for the world to see.
For myself, I try to limit anything I post about the wife or my kids. There are too many opportunities in this ever connected world for harm to be done from the most innocuous of,postings.
I was a bad kid. Took what I want, and consequences be damned. I always had some buffer in me however to not actually physically hurt people. I've never really been sure where that reserve came from, maybe it's a genetic or compassionate part of my brain that those who are broken cannot understand. I have a wife, kids, a couple of homes, a flourishing business and while the past still sneaks up on me in the form of bad days, I still function in society.
You did not seem to have this. Since high school, and your time in juvie, your actions have been founded in violence and an utter disregard for others feelings. Stabbing a guard with a pencil is a good indicator of how things are going to turn out. Biting a guard during a trial where you are currently attempting to paint yourself as the victim is a further indication. Broken. Some broken things are fixable, and may still have value if fixed. Some broken things can never be fixed.
One point you go back to is that Mr. Updegrave started the fight. I can believe that, as he could be an ass. Physical violence however was not his way. It's well known that you attacked your victim in the kitchen, drug him from there, through three rooms and into the bathroom.
Since you dismembered the body, and even went so far as to go to your estranged girlfriends house to borrow a saw to finish the job (this is the home you were kicked out of, and the reason you lived with ron), you did. Ore than "take a life"". Let's add to that disposing parts of his corpse throughout Bucks County, stealing his car and trying to sell his things.
I do not forgive you. While I can only offer the best hopes that you continue to try and find ways to live with what you have done, there is no scenario in which your crimes should be forgiven. For a reference a religious man will understand, try Matthew 5:38 and leviticus 24:20.
If your attempt to become a better person were done altruistically, and not in a situation where honestly it is only one of two choices, then I and others like me might think... This man has a redeemable value. I think we both know however that were the opportunity given for you to be back on the streets, nothing less than a continuation of your past activities would be the result.
As one of the people that your actions affected, I will never forgive you. Not Just the murder that finally got you put away, but your actions prior to that. You owe a debt to society that really cannot be repaid. Society continues to support you, but has chosen to exclude you from the rest of us. It's sad in a way, necessary, but sad.