I did read that other blog u wrote..Btw, I have spoken with my mother about the events that happened prior to the fight. I know there was a call from Ron, I know there was someone saying they were going to dump a pitcher of beer over her head which was was prompted them to come there.Regardless, nobody seen you try to shake hands. The way the fight started was never an issue. The issues were how it escalated and turned to murder.You , ron, dick, yall had criminal records! That isnt even the issue. I have a very close relationship with my mom and shes been very honest with me and there are things I bring up that I remember that she has since blocked out and cant recall at all. She does not remember the blood on the walls or carpet.Crazy , she was the one that tried to get our security deposit back, by sopping the blood out of the carpet with towels and wringing them out in the tub, shampooing the floor over and over, cleaning the walls and painting them.I think that every person there that night,seen and remembers different parts of the event that took place, dont dismiss what everyone else seen and heard . You were preoccupied in the fight...I think maybe its good for you to also hear what others remember. Your version may have some truths and maybe all thruth from what you recall but make no mistake of what others recall as well, as the truth. I appreciate your side. I appreciate you responding to my message. I just dont appreciate that u call me a liar. I can even tell you that in my moms room , where I ran after coming out and seeing what all was happening, I jumped under her covers (cant see me) and phil collins was on the clock radio singing "hello" ....I may have been young but what I remember , is what I seen and heard. There is a fine line between self defense and murder. Im still up on that bet if your willing to take it !
Like I mentioned before,I have suffered for many years reliving this nightmare in my mind. You talk about not opening old wounds...Then you sit here and complain that you have to sit for your crime. Poor you , right? When have you ever mentioned in your blogs a simple Im sorry for what those kids had to go through? You only call us liars. It disgusts me. I have kids and cant imagine them ever being exposed to what I was in 84. Maybe someday ill find it in me to let this all go. How ever I do feel awful for your daughter. She to is a victim.Maybe just once you could put her in my shoes .Picture that little girl coming out of that room and seeing everything I've shared and then have the convicted murderer call her a liar! I think you would agree that is typical of most inmates to proclaim they are innocent and it's always the victims who pay the real price. I understand you want your freedom, who wouldn't ? Do not point fingers at those that were just there! We and I speak for every other single person in that apartment that night,Did NOT pull a knife out and preform your actions for you. You mentioned also The guy you stabbed had an extensive record yet you never mention what your prior record was...We all also know that size does not mean a thing in a fight. You mention your height and weight...Well my brother has had many many fights in his life he is not a big guy, about your size in his prime...Never lost one,ever! It didn't matter how big or when it was a fight against several at once.He never pulled a knife...Food for thought. Let me also let you in on another thing. My brother also served time in prison for fighting, battery was his reason. He never murdered anyone and he did his time without complaint. If you continue to write blogs,try being truthful,dont call people liars to make yourself look or feel better. If you claim to have found a higher power. Then live it. Do not disregard the feelings of victims,any of them. You are not the only one with feelings, whose life was changed . There are many of us out here. Your family members, mine, and the man who lost his life's family... One more thing before I end this. You were in the middle of a raging fight, fighting for your life as you say. Do you really think you noticed what my brother or myself seen happening? Honestly , how would you have noticed every single thing going on around you in a moment like that? I do not for a minute believe you remember all of the events we all witnessed in those moments.I have no reason to lie. What would I gain? I have no motive to lie,None. The whole entire thing was a nightmare for everyone.
We had to pick your (you and lyle's) pictures out of albums filled with peoples mug shots.I didn't get to see my mother for about 24 hours after seeing you turn your head and look over your right shoulder and look me directly in my eyes,(which by the way for some reason I thought maybe I was what triggered you to stop and run,since you to had a daughter)(my way of rationalizing this over the years) but then I remember hearing Ron yelling mother fucker you wanna play with knives??...blood was smeared down the walls and blood drenched the carpet and a man dying because you went overboard.The man who died(dicky)his heart stopped several times in our apartment and that sound of those shockers going off and his body thumping on the floor go through my mind often. Did you know (Ron-dickies brother) was also detained and was unable to go with his dying brother on his last ride, to the hospital. My mother and him were separated on the spot. To find out the following day that "dicky" didn't survive. Evidently you must have blocked some things out of your memory or you just fail to take full responsibility for your actions. Ironically the other kid you called a liar, (my brother) recently started saying he actually feels bad for you serving all this time, Harlan has a degree, kid,man that's a long time,people can change etc...Yet, you call him a liar! let me share something else, its now 1am, again Im losing sleep over this murder. I read this blog, bothered, I texted my brothers phone.I asked him, do you still feel bad that he has to serve all this time for what he did? (because I dont feel bad for you)the victims serve time daily,until they die. Anyways, he just responded to my text and asked" why ". I said well you and I are liars according to Harlan. I said you and I seen nothing that night , according to Harlan.. .He wrote me again and said and I quote "I saw it all , I even put pillows under his dying head , I saw everything"...
My version of events which I witnessed will be in this letter.. I am so shocked and appalled and irritated after reading what you wrote about my brother and I.You are calling us liars? We were two innocent children at the time who told the truth of what we witnessed.We were never ever tricked, talked into,led to believe , made up or were fed info to convict you or any of the such like you implied. My version of events are very clear to me. I know what I woke up to , I know what I walked out to see and for you to call me a liar makes me angry! That dead end hallway u speak of is exactly where I was sleeping when I heard banging. To be honest , I actually thought when I opened the bedroom door and walked out behind you , that my mom was the one laying on the floor and her boyfriend was beating her up....Until u turned and looked over your shoulder and I seen your face and I heard my mom yelling , "Tina get back in my room " over and over....
I would gladly take a lie detector test to prove to you and to the world ,what I seen happen and what I heard people yelling, anything I stated back then , I will state again. Id be willing to make a bet with you. You stop your appeals and serve the rest of your life in prison,give me an apology for calling me a liar and my brother also ,if my results prove what I stated to the police, during your trial or any place else of what I seen and heard that night proves to be the truth of what I seen-heard-and that I was not co-hearsed into anything.I win the bet You serve your life in prison,no appeals.Deal?
You claim self defense, which I believe it was at the start of your fight that night. When you decided to stab a man over 21 times in all parts of his body and he is unable to fight anymore your self defense claim then changes to murder.
You Killed your brother and to my knowledge you served sometime for his death. You were released and in a very short amount of time you killed another man.2 lives gone from your actions.
Usually people who find God admit there wrong doings and ask for forgiveness. They don't twist there story to make others feel sorry for them or place blame on the victims. Usually they are sorry for there actions.
Do you know I have a lot of memories of your cousin (Lyle) I can even remember him owing a silver vw rabbit, I remember him having a blue conversion van and riding in it. Are those lies to? (odd for being so young) I remember even thinking you were cute--I remember being around you on a few occasions and riding in that blue van with you and my mom. Also ,after you fled from the apartment my brother, his friend who was spending the night and myself were removed from the apartment, separated and had to give statements which were voice recorded before I was able to see my mom again.
I agree! It's NOT right! EVERY human life is valuable and we all have an obligation to help and support each other through this life. No one has the right to end a life and what sort of message does it send, when that is the punishment for those who do.
The death penalty is an archaic practice that has NO place in a modern world, particularly not a first world country like the USA. I'm thankful that I live in a country that has not supported state sanctioned killing for many decades.
I watched an interview recently between US defense attorney Bryan Stevenson and Richard Branson (of the Virgin empire) and they discussed how those caught up on death row are mostly the poor, simply unable to afford adequate legal representation. They actually said it was "better to be rich and guilty than poor and innocent in the USA". This is atrocious! And needs to change!! They also stated that "1 out of every 9 on death row are ultimately found innocent & if one in every 9 patients died under anesthetic we would stop using it... or if 1 out of every 9 planes went down, we wouldn't fly". It's the legal system that is broken and whether innocent or no... none of us have the right to take the life of another under ANY circumstances!
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old wounds...Then you sit here and complain that you have to sit for your crime. Poor you , right? When have you ever
mentioned in your blogs a simple Im sorry for what those kids had to go through? You only call us liars. It disgusts me.
I have kids and cant imagine them ever being exposed to what I was in 84. Maybe someday ill find it in me to let this
all go. How ever I do feel awful for your daughter. She to is a victim.Maybe just once you could put her in my shoes
.Picture that little girl coming out of that room and seeing everything I've shared and then have the convicted murderer
call her a liar! I think you would agree that is typical of most inmates to proclaim they are innocent and it's
always the victims who pay the real price. I understand you want your freedom, who wouldn't ? Do not point fingers
at those that were just there! We and I speak for every other single person in that apartment that night,Did NOT pull
a knife out and preform your actions for you.
You mentioned also The guy you stabbed had an extensive record yet you never mention what your prior record was...We
all also know that size does not mean a thing in a fight. You mention your height and weight...Well my brother has had
many many fights in his life he is not a big guy, about your size in his prime...Never lost one,ever! It didn't matter
how big or when it was a fight against several at once.He never pulled a knife...Food for thought. Let me also let you
in on another thing. My brother also served time in prison for fighting, battery was his reason. He never murdered anyone
and he did his time without complaint.
If you continue to write blogs,try being truthful,dont call people liars to make yourself look or feel better. If you claim to
have found a higher power. Then live it. Do not disregard the feelings of victims,any of them. You are not the only
one with feelings, whose life was changed . There are many of us out here. Your family members, mine, and the man who
lost his life's family...
One more thing before I end this. You were in the middle of a raging fight, fighting for your life as you say. Do you
really think you noticed what my brother or myself seen happening? Honestly , how would you have noticed every single
thing going on around you in a moment like that? I do not for a minute believe you remember all of the events we all
witnessed in those moments.I have no reason to lie. What would I gain? I have no motive to lie,None. The whole entire
thing was a nightmare for everyone.
pictures out of albums filled with peoples mug shots.I didn't get to see my mother for about 24 hours after seeing you
turn your head and look over your right shoulder and look me directly in my eyes,(which by the way for some reason I
thought maybe I was what triggered you to stop and run,since you to had a daughter)(my way of rationalizing this over the years)
but then I remember hearing Ron yelling
mother fucker you wanna play with knives??...blood was smeared down the walls and blood drenched the carpet and a man
dying because you went overboard.The man who died(dicky)his heart stopped several times
in our apartment and that sound of those shockers going off and his body thumping on the floor go through my mind often.
Did you know (Ron-dickies brother) was also detained and was unable to go with his dying brother on his last ride, to the
hospital. My mother and him were separated on the spot. To find out the following day that "dicky" didn't survive.
Evidently you must have blocked some things out of your memory or you just fail to take full responsibility for your actions.
Ironically the other kid you called a liar, (my brother) recently started saying he actually feels bad for you serving
all this time, Harlan has a degree, kid,man that's a long time,people can change etc...Yet, you call him a liar! let me
share something else, its now 1am, again Im losing sleep over this murder. I read this blog, bothered, I texted my
brothers phone.I asked him, do you still feel bad that he has to serve all this time for what he did? (because I dont
feel bad for you)the victims serve time daily,until they die. Anyways, he just responded to my text and asked" why ".
I said well you and I are liars according to Harlan. I said you and I seen nothing that night , according to Harlan..
.He wrote me again and said and I quote "I saw it all , I even put pillows under his dying head , I saw everything"...
my brother and I.You are calling us liars? We were two innocent children at the time who told the truth of what we
witnessed.We were never ever tricked, talked into,led to believe , made up or were fed info to convict you or any of
the such like you implied.
My version of events are very clear to me. I know what I woke up to , I know what I walked out to see and for you to
call me a liar makes me angry! That dead end hallway u speak of is exactly where I was sleeping when I heard banging.
To be honest , I actually thought when I opened the bedroom door and walked out behind you , that my mom was the one
laying on the floor and her boyfriend was beating her up....Until u turned and looked over your shoulder and I seen your face and
I heard my mom yelling , "Tina get back in my room " over and over....
I would gladly take a lie detector test to prove to you and to the world ,what I seen happen and what I heard people
yelling, anything I stated back then , I will state again. Id be willing to make a bet with you. You stop your appeals
and serve the rest of your life in prison,give me an apology for calling me a liar and my brother also ,if my results prove
what I stated to the police, during your trial or any place else of what I seen and heard that night proves to be the truth
of what I seen-heard-and that I was not co-hearsed into anything.I win the bet You serve
your life in prison,no appeals.Deal?
You claim self defense, which I believe it was at the start of your fight that night. When you decided to stab a man over
21 times in all parts of his body and he is unable to fight anymore your self defense claim then changes to murder.
You Killed your brother and to my knowledge you served sometime for his death. You were released and in a very short
amount of time you killed another man.2 lives gone from your actions.
Usually people who find God admit there wrong doings and ask for forgiveness. They don't twist there story to make others
feel sorry for them or place blame on the victims. Usually they are sorry for there actions.
Do you know I have a lot of memories of your cousin (Lyle) I can even remember him owing a silver vw rabbit, I remember
him having a blue conversion van and riding in it. Are those lies to? (odd for being so young) I remember even thinking you were
cute--I remember being around you on a few occasions and riding in that blue van with you and my mom.
Also ,after you fled from the apartment my brother, his friend who was spending the night and myself were removed from
the apartment, separated and had to give statements which were voice recorded before I was able to see my mom again.
The death penalty is an archaic practice that has NO place in a modern world, particularly not a first world country like the USA. I'm thankful that I live in a country that has not supported state sanctioned killing for many decades.
I watched an interview recently between US defense attorney Bryan Stevenson and Richard Branson (of the Virgin empire) and they discussed how those caught up on death row are mostly the poor, simply unable to afford adequate legal representation. They actually said it was "better to be rich and guilty than poor and innocent in the USA". This is atrocious! And needs to change!! They also stated that "1 out of every 9 on death row are ultimately found innocent & if one in every 9 patients died under anesthetic we would stop using it... or if 1 out of every 9 planes went down, we wouldn't fly". It's the legal system that is broken and whether innocent or no... none of us have the right to take the life of another under ANY circumstances!
I wish you both well. Take care
Nicki