I also want to say I'm the mother of the criminal & the grandmother of the victim and I don't think violent offenders are all deserving of their sentences. See Tims proposed legislation for violent offenders under the age of 24. Brain science. My son falls into that category. Prosecutors arbitrarily trim & alter their cases to say what they want them to say, to put in a show for the public to make them feel safer. And the fact is, they are no safer. Men go in for far milder crimes come out to commit more heinous crimes because of our prison systems lack of concern for their future. Turning an involuntary manslaughter case into a murder case and taking it from 8 to 15 years, to a 15 to life sentence --- it's purely money driven. And they count on the common man not having a half-million dollars around for the defense to show why it was not murder. Prison Corp Inc are taking advantage of this every day all the time and until that changes, we're going to have old incapacitated men they can't be released from prison because it's cruel. How convenient.
Everything you say is true, & the solutions depend purely on a society that is growing more jaded, angry & vengeful, rather than kind, happy, purpose driven & progress-minded. Prisoners & their problems in relation to society are low in priority.
That's too bad; because not all who leave are agied, but they still match all the criteria you outlined. We're out here bitching abut unfair prison practices & lack of jobs.... Here's a job: take care of all the old men leaving prison... ! What s concept. Except for the most dangerous psychotic cases, a lot of qualifying prisoners can be trained to be personal care assistants , literally the biggest employee shortage we have in the medical community. Same with homemakers and NURSES. A program featuring assisted living, or just a different type of facility where they're granted a modicum of movement, of freedom... SOME kind of consolation! They should be offered a choice. Otherwise it'll be "the shawsank solution" for most. But our prison system has the whole show sewn up. The suggestions made here would go against the grain of corruption, greed, & power in place that's feeding the elite few in charge. None of our ass clowns intends to volunteer their lucrative lifestyle in favor of radical groundbreaking judtice reform. That'd be too much like actual work. These galumpkies wanna sit on their collective duffs & collect a paycheck.
Do you know the guy? Do you know the case Mr. Judgmental? Or are you just reading into what "they" say and speculating his guilt? Troy is innocent. I feel sorry for you because you cannot see past your own judgment, privilege, and narrow mindedness. To the contrary, Troy is loved, there is yet warmth and compassion that surround him, even in a place so cruel where he doesn't belong! There is No pity party, as that's not in his DNA, but rather a fight for innocence. The Only acknowledgement needed is that he's innocent and wrongly convicted!!! Yet God is watching over him, and he will be freed from the prison designed to break him, as his innocence shall be proved. Furthermore, the COs aren't keeping anyone safe, they are abusing authority! Your teeth are a cage for your tongue, remember that!
No. I don't think everyone should stay incarcerated. I think you are takin my question wrong.
What I am asking is pat a certain point, is it a kindness or a cruelty to release an aging inmate.
I agree that the sentences handed down are ridiculous in many, many cases. I do think that some cases (particularly violent ones) deserve really whatever is given to them, but in that case, I am biased. I've had personal exposure.
My point came up because almost to the day of reading Mr. Muise's blog, there was an incident of a wrongly convicted man being released. This incident is a topic for another discussion though. During his interview, the mercy or innocence project (I cannot remember which one) brought up the example of a wrongly convicted man who was at or past retirement age.
personally, I find the entire issue to be absolutely horrible. You have a man who will be unable to enjoy retirement, may be at a loss as to how to function in today's society, and may be entirely bereft of family. It's an awful, awful concept to consider.
That's why I asked, is it a mercy to let an aging prisoner out, or is it a cruelty to just throw them out into the world. As a society, we offer nothing to these people. No matter what that person may have done in their earlier life, they are still a,person, and it is just a horrible thing to consider throwing a person to the wolves after extended incarceration.
A perfect society would offer some sort of safety net, but we barely do that for the majority of our population.
That is the entire basis for my question... Is it compassionate, or is it cruel. I truly do not know.
This is written with the assumption that scientists of all studies gained power and kept it secret. This can't be further from the truth.
* Galileo Galilei * Moses Harris * Thaddeus William Harris * Alice Eastwood * Marija Šimanska * Henrietta Swan Leavitt
These people and many more tried to spread their knowledge in one way or another before they died. Often without making a penny for their contributions or being labeled pariahs at one point in their lifetimes for being "strange".
If anything, commercialism in itself could be labeled the bigger villain.
Not many dispute the required incarceration for wrongs committed against society. We just don't want you grabbing our friends junk when you're patting down and squeeze real hard, for no reason. Immature cowboy guards with mental illnesses should not be allowed to handle prisoners.
It just makes for bad press.
Speaking of press.... ahem ahem.... that spectre could become a reality....
So just leave things as they are, Maggie? Cuz we just 'can't do any better'? You think that's a kindness? I'm wondering what they think of that... Your example is legit - for that guy - it's an idea that will work for him, but not all inmates fall into that category....
The problem is having put them there for that long to begin with!! It's like putting a 4 year old in a 6 hour long time-out - it produced NOTHING USEFUL.
What is getting these guys to the point of chopping up a body? Why are we so violent?
I find it hard to believe, in a nation of allegedly EXCEPTIONAL people, that we can't find a better way. This is a challenge that our 'exceptionalism' should meet head on willingly - it's the one challenge we need the most focus on. If our prison systems would get off their collective asses and come up with some new material, they'd have 34 million more people singing in tune with them.
If we want to 'prove' to the world we're not a bunch of schmucks, we ought to start there.
*Hello Daddy Dearest, Well well daddy you still think i m like my my Mommy Dearest cause u see daddy i maybe like you after all more then i thought people accusing me of lies to put me in prison looks like my life ends the way urs may sad to say daddy dearest u werent always there so i blame half on you for not trying hard enuff i had a plan when i was young to be a lawyer so i can set your ass free by dropping u r record the prison center of alliance told me. It cost close to 250,000 but i wasn't gonna give up til u gave up not no hope in u r daughter tho in three weeks may be my last breath of air in society. Daddy Dearest should of protected me from bad people but he never did and now it s too late my life maybe ruined and destroyed for ever -love sincerely Krista
So, here we go! "10) Recovery and Treatment options for substance users and abusers are currently, for the most part reserved for individuals with the resources and support structure that is not availible to many poor and underpriveledged neighborhoods and people. Reasearch has shown that these 'harm reduction" based appraches are cheaper on a state and easier/better for a populace than more putative approaches like jail. Drug user should have opportunity for employment and standard of living same as anyone else."
I highly agree with most of those points.
Well, enough of that. I'll just believe you that you're innocent, I mean, I can't prove anything else anyways. :P So! I hope justice will be done. Mind if I ask about your family? How do they deal with the fact that you're locked up?
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See Tims proposed legislation for violent offenders under the age of 24. Brain science. My son falls into that category. Prosecutors arbitrarily trim & alter their cases to say what they want them to say, to put in a show for the public to make them feel safer.
And the fact is, they are no safer. Men go in for far milder crimes come out to commit more heinous crimes because of our prison systems lack of concern for their future. Turning an involuntary manslaughter case into a murder case and taking it from 8 to 15 years, to a 15 to life sentence --- it's purely money driven. And they count on the common man not having a half-million dollars around for the defense to show why it was not murder. Prison Corp Inc are taking advantage of this every day all the time and until that changes, we're going to have old incapacitated men they can't be released from prison because it's cruel. How convenient.
That's too bad; because not all who leave are agied, but they still match all the criteria you outlined. We're out here bitching abut unfair prison practices & lack of jobs.... Here's a job: take care of all the old men leaving prison... !
What s concept.
Except for the most dangerous psychotic cases, a lot of qualifying prisoners can be trained to be personal care assistants , literally the biggest employee shortage we have in the medical community. Same with homemakers and NURSES.
A program featuring assisted living, or just a different type of facility where they're granted a modicum of movement, of freedom... SOME kind of consolation! They should be offered a choice. Otherwise it'll be "the shawsank solution" for most.
But our prison system has the whole show sewn up. The suggestions made here would go against the grain of corruption, greed, & power in place that's feeding the elite few in charge. None of our ass clowns intends to volunteer their lucrative lifestyle in favor of radical groundbreaking judtice reform. That'd be too much like actual work. These galumpkies wanna sit on their collective duffs & collect a paycheck.
What I am asking is pat a certain point, is it a kindness or a cruelty to release an aging inmate.
I agree that the sentences handed down are ridiculous in many, many cases. I do think that some cases (particularly violent ones) deserve really whatever is given to them, but in that case, I am biased. I've had personal exposure.
My point came up because almost to the day of reading Mr. Muise's blog, there was an incident of a wrongly convicted man being released. This incident is a topic for another discussion though. During his interview, the mercy or innocence project (I cannot remember which one) brought up the example of a wrongly convicted man who was at or past retirement age.
personally, I find the entire issue to be absolutely horrible. You have a man who will be unable to enjoy retirement, may be at a loss as to how to function in today's society, and may be entirely bereft of family. It's an awful, awful concept to consider.
That's why I asked, is it a mercy to let an aging prisoner out, or is it a cruelty to just throw them out into the world. As a society, we offer nothing to these people. No matter what that person may have done in their earlier life, they are still a,person, and it is just a horrible thing to consider throwing a person to the wolves after extended incarceration.
A perfect society would offer some sort of safety net, but we barely do that for the majority of our population.
That is the entire basis for my question... Is it compassionate, or is it cruel. I truly do not know.
* Galileo Galilei
* Moses Harris
* Thaddeus William Harris
* Alice Eastwood
* Marija Šimanska
* Henrietta Swan Leavitt
These people and many more tried to spread their knowledge in one way or another before they died. Often without making a penny for their contributions or being labeled pariahs at one point in their lifetimes for being "strange".
If anything, commercialism in itself could be labeled the bigger villain.
We just don't want you grabbing our friends junk when you're patting down and squeeze real hard, for no reason.
Immature cowboy guards with mental illnesses should not be allowed to handle prisoners.
It just makes for bad press.
Speaking of press.... ahem ahem.... that spectre could become a reality....
The problem is having put them there for that long to begin with!!
It's like putting a 4 year old in a 6 hour long time-out - it produced NOTHING USEFUL.
What is getting these guys to the point of chopping up a body? Why are we so violent?
I find it hard to believe, in a nation of allegedly EXCEPTIONAL people, that we can't find a better way. This is a challenge that our 'exceptionalism' should meet head on willingly - it's the one challenge we need the most focus on. If our prison systems would get off their collective asses and come up with some new material, they'd have 34 million more people singing in tune with them.
If we want to 'prove' to the world we're not a bunch of schmucks, we ought to start there.
Well well daddy you still think i m like my my Mommy Dearest cause u see daddy i maybe like you after all more then i thought people accusing me of lies to put me in prison looks like my life ends the way urs may sad to say daddy dearest u werent always there so i blame half on you for not trying hard enuff i had a plan when i was young to be a lawyer so i can set your ass free by dropping u r record the prison center of alliance told me. It cost close to 250,000 but i wasn't gonna give up til u gave up not no hope in u r daughter tho in three weeks may be my last breath of air in society. Daddy Dearest should of protected me from bad people but he never did and now it s too late my life maybe ruined and destroyed for ever
-love sincerely
Krista
"10) Recovery and Treatment options for substance users and abusers are currently, for the most part reserved for individuals with the resources and support structure that is not availible to many poor and underpriveledged neighborhoods and people. Reasearch has shown that these 'harm reduction" based appraches are cheaper on a state and easier/better for a populace than more putative approaches like jail. Drug user should have opportunity for employment and standard of living same as anyone else."
I highly agree with most of those points.
Well, enough of that. I'll just believe you that you're innocent, I mean, I can't prove anything else anyways. :P So! I hope justice will be done.
Mind if I ask about your family? How do they deal with the fact that you're locked up?
Be well,
Jamie