I think there IS honor in putting it all down, too.
I guess I'm just looking from the outside - and I see honor in what you are doing - the things that are good, caring (of your family and friends) - and positive. Urging kids to make good decisions - that's honorable.
But those men you looked at - you think you understand that they have no honor because of the choices they made.
You don't know this. It is possible that *for them* they had to do something very different in order to change. Maybe they *have* put it all down (the things from the past) and they are making an effort to be more peaceful, kinder - and the only way *they* could do this - was to make the decision they did.
Maybe - *for them* this was the only way to put down the anger/the need for revenge?
I'm not speaking for them - or even for *one* of them - I'm just reflecting that even things that look like defeat - or dishonor - from the outside - can be something else. How can we know? We don't even know what was said - perhaps the things they said only took responsibility for what they have done.
I know this is the point. And I'm not saying this is what happened. Just - how do we know? What value is there in judging what we don't know?
I'm asking if there is *benefit for you* - and I'm asking sincerely - out of respect.
You know, I think that I am an honorable person. I try everyday to do something that I can for someone else. I'm not wealthy - and I don't always have time to spare (I'm busy ;-). But every day I try to do something that helps. Even if it's just a very small thing.
This is honorable. To some people, it's a small life. But to me - my life is trying to help people. And that's good.
There is a lot that you have written and I've been thinking about how to respond. I'm pretty sure I can't do a good job of this - you have written so much - and there would be so much to write back. But I want to try - you'll have to forgive the fact that I have only responded to a bit. I have read it all a few times and have thought about it a great deal.
On the one hand, I feel like you have had a very difficult road - one that continues. I know that you have chosen to make the best of it (studying math, doing art).
I don't know how people survive in those SHU's without losing it. All the strength - and even all those codes you learned from the past - well, I'll bet they help. Without all of that - it would be harder.
I have a great deal of respect for you - I mean that sincerely. And please keep in mind that I do NOT support the process in California. I also very much believe in change and I hope that the policy of debriefing changes.
But here's the point that I also want to make. I think there is also strength in putting it down. You write that you looked at those men who were now in PC and you thought they had no honor. (That's what you meant?)
Hey David, we are looking at flights to come see you in May! Finally got things in order so she/ we can make it. Does May work? Please let me know via letter or here and I'll send you updated information for the visitor log.
I am in 110% for this wonderful program! You have my support in any way possible that you need me to be, just let me know. I will let you know via snail mail as well but seeing as how you have asked for our support via comments here it is!! Let me know what you need! Love and respect, Lynette9gypsyrose54)
Once again, thank you for writing, and I hope this message reaches those who can assist you.
By the forenoon And by the night when it darkens Your Lord (O Muhammad) has not forsaken you nor has he hated you. And indeed the future shall be better for you than the present And verily, your Lord will give you so that you shall be well-pleased.
My dear sweet cousin... been online googling away because I cant sleep and low and behold I see your sweet face ((hugs)) miss you lots and lots Scotty!! I wrote down your mail info I will get a letter out to you in tomorrow's mail. So much to catch up on with you. I have never posted in one of these forums before now and not sure how this works so yea I will send you the snail mail but right now ""know that your always in my prayers"" your deeply missed and loved back home. Oh yea its me your cousin Patsy... as I am writing this my thoughts are on that day I drove out there to SLO pick you up and we did a run to Santa Barbara before we headed back home... seems like a hundred years ago - any ways expect a letter; cant wait to hear back from you.. gotta say it again was so happy to see your face on those online picks along with your letters. Until my letter reaches you God Bless you my sweet dear cousin ((hugs))
Dear mr.clark I've been looking into your life behind bars and I can see you are really bord. I was wondering if you could help me I am writing a book about the mind and inner thoughts of a serial killer and I want to actually step into the mind of a serial killer not calling you one of course. The reason I am writing this book is to actually give the world knowledge of what serial killers will think.say or do to manipulate them into becoming the next victim. My name is Cody Johnson i live here in San Antonio Texas and I have been doing a ton of research gathering people to interview one of them is actually on death row at union correctional in Florida his name is Robert J Long he killed more then 10 people. I hope that you receive this and please if you can either write to me or some how give me a call my number is 956-266-4122 my address is 11615 purple mint San Antonio tx 78245 I am available all day for a call and of course a letter thank you Mr.Clark for your time I hope that you can help me and be apart of something that will hopefully save lives in the future god bless
P.s I would really like a phone interview I can talk to the warden about it if possible
After the lunch by wendy cope On Waterloo Bridge, where we said our goodbyes, The weather conditions bring tears to my eyes. I wipe them away with a black woolly glove And try not to notice I’ve fallen in love.
On Waterloo Bridge I am trying to think: This is nothing. You’re high on the charm and the drink. But the juke-box inside me is playing a song That says something different. And when was it wrong?
On Waterloo Bridge with the wind in my hair I am tempted to skip. You’re a fool. I don’t care. The head does its best but the heart is the boss — I admit it before I am halfway across.
******************************************* Flowers Some men never think of it. You did. You’d come along And say you’d nearly brought me flowers But something had gone wrong.
The shop was closed. Or you had doubts — The sort that minds like ours Dream up incessantly. You thought I might not want your flowers.
It made me smile and hug you then. Now I can only smile. But, look, the flowers you nearly brought Have lasted all this while.
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I guess I'm just looking from the outside - and I see honor in what you are doing - the things that are good, caring (of your family and friends) - and positive. Urging kids to make good decisions - that's honorable.
But those men you looked at - you think you understand that they have no honor because of the choices they made.
You don't know this. It is possible that *for them* they had to do something very different in order to change. Maybe they *have* put it all down (the things from the past) and they are making an effort to be more peaceful, kinder - and the only way *they* could do this - was to make the decision they did.
Maybe - *for them* this was the only way to put down the anger/the need for revenge?
I'm not speaking for them - or even for *one* of them - I'm just reflecting that even things that look like defeat - or dishonor - from the outside - can be something else. How can we know? We don't even know what was said - perhaps the things they said only took responsibility for what they have done.
I know this is the point. And I'm not saying this is what happened. Just - how do we know? What value is there in judging what we don't know?
I'm asking if there is *benefit for you* - and I'm asking sincerely - out of respect.
You know, I think that I am an honorable person. I try everyday to do something that I can for someone else. I'm not wealthy - and I don't always have time to spare (I'm busy ;-). But every day I try to do something that helps. Even if it's just a very small thing.
This is honorable. To some people, it's a small life. But to me - my life is trying to help people. And that's good.
On the one hand, I feel like you have had a very difficult road - one that continues. I know that you have chosen to make the best of it (studying math, doing art).
I don't know how people survive in those SHU's without losing it. All the strength - and even all those codes you learned from the past - well, I'll bet they help. Without all of that - it would be harder.
I have a great deal of respect for you - I mean that sincerely. And please keep in mind that I do NOT support the process in California. I also very much believe in change and I hope that the policy of debriefing changes.
But here's the point that I also want to make. I think there is also strength in putting it down. You write that you looked at those men who were now in PC and you thought they had no honor. (That's what you meant?)
Let me know what you need!
Love and respect,
Lynette9gypsyrose54)
Once again, thank you for writing, and I hope this message reaches those who can assist you.
By the forenoon
And by the night when it darkens
Your Lord (O Muhammad) has not forsaken you nor has he hated you.
And indeed the future shall be better for you than the present
And verily, your Lord will give you so that you shall be well-pleased.
Elizabeth-Anne
P.s I would really like a phone interview I can talk to the warden about it if possible
Sincerialy
Cody Johnson
by wendy cope
On Waterloo Bridge, where we said our goodbyes,
The weather conditions bring tears to my eyes.
I wipe them away with a black woolly glove
And try not to notice I’ve fallen in love.
On Waterloo Bridge I am trying to think:
This is nothing. You’re high on the charm and the drink.
But the juke-box inside me is playing a song
That says something different. And when was it wrong?
On Waterloo Bridge with the wind in my hair
I am tempted to skip. You’re a fool. I don’t care.
The head does its best but the heart is the boss —
I admit it before I am halfway across.
*******************************************
Flowers
Some men never think of it.
You did. You’d come along
And say you’d nearly brought me flowers
But something had gone wrong.
The shop was closed. Or you had doubts —
The sort that minds like ours
Dream up incessantly. You thought
I might not want your flowers.
It made me smile and hug you then.
Now I can only smile.
But, look, the flowers you nearly brought
Have lasted all this while.